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MANUKAU MODEL POWER BOAT CLUB Inc

 

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Venue: Wattle Farm Rd Pond Manurewa

2nd & 4th Sunday of each month from about 10.30 am

 

Secretary:        Glen Sayers                 Editor   Chris Breen

                        9 Reyland Close                       12 Sunset Rd

                        Manurewa                               Glenfield

                        Ph 267 2607                              Ph 4445 482                              April/May 2002

 

EDITOR’S NOTE

Text Box:  Hi guys. I must apologise for the failure to publish an April Newsletter. I have recently moved house, and other commitments have taken up my recent week-ends. I SHALL BE BACK TO THE POND VERY SOON. The result is I have little stuff to put in this newsletter. Merv and Glen have written most of the local content in this Newsletter plus the final points results etc. – Thanks Guys

CLUB CHAMPS

No write-up but results are elsewhere in this newsletter

TECH NOTES

The following recent discussion on the rcboat.com listbot is interesting

 

Water Cooling the Glow-Plug

When I first started in model boating; I had one boat in which I was watercooling my radio box.   Accidentally of course, but that didn't seem to work real well till I fixed it. I have a head on an OPS .45 where the plug is submerged in the jacket and is water cooled off the rudder pick up. However, this watercooling is part of the design and not by accident. Is this a good idea to have your glow plug submerged in water while the engine is running??   I always stayed out of roostertails concerned about water getting to the engine, head, plug.  

Brad Christy

Keeping the plug at a nice, even temperature is never a bad thing. Wanting to keep it out of roostertails is admirable, but water will have less effect on the plug than it will on the pipe. With the plug flooded you will be able to close down your water flow, bringing the temperature of the engine up without the risk of smoking the plug, which will allow you to burn more fuel, producing more power.

Titan Racing Components

Norm_Doerr

Yup; Hence the Waterplug modification that Ackerman, Grannis, and others were doing a while ago. I still have a few engines with water plug heads. I would not recommend them for .20 engines. They tend to put the plug out on launch.   Also they are kind of pain to screw in if you are running a flat squishband. (engine idles rough).

Dan_Cousin

I ran a OPS 45 for years before I retired it. Good motor. I drilled a small hole on the inside of the water jacket so it jetted directly on the glow plug body. It made a nice difference on how much compression I could run before the plug would go. The water jacket on the old 45 (disk rotor) was a bit restricted anyway so the extra outlet helped with a overheating problem I had with that engine. Don't know if they changed this on the drum rotor versions.

Don Ferrette

I'll agree with Norm on the flat squish band & vibration thing. I had those type of water jackets made by Tom Grannis on my twin Roadrunner with a pair of 80's using the flat squish band. Boy was that a handful getting those caps on while both motors were running! It took three people to get the boat going- me on the radio, one guy starting & one guy putting on the caps & cowling. Went back to conventional set up about a 1/3 way thru the season. They do work but caution is advised- keep in mind that sometimes frying the plug is a sort of safety valve from cooking a motor. I have seen a motor get fried from going too lean & the water jacket kept the plug from flaming out.  

Norm_Doerr

Don is right. I cooked a K&B once luckily I dodged the bullet. The entire inside of the plug melted then the bearings said goodbye. It was running the next day but expensive. As far as the plugs go..Put the cowl on before you install the plugs.   There is not bigger pain then having the plug fall into the engine compartment and bounce around THEN . If you are lucky enough to fish it out, it may not thread correctly because the threads are dinged up.

And some further discussion on a certain make of motor

Preston Hall

Here is what I did to my MAC21 and MAC45. It may be a little hard to follow, so if you'd like to try it and don't fully understand, call me and I'll explain in greater detail.

I drilled six holes (.063" dia.) in the top of the head button very close to the glow plug, about .060" deep (making very sure not to get too close to the combustion chamber). Then from the side of the head button, I drilled two holes to every hole in the top, for a total of twelve holes radially spaced around the head button. This is how the water exits the water jacket. There are two threaded holes in the water jacket for water inlet and outlet. I plugged one of them with a set screw and Loc-Tite. I threaded the hole in the top of the water jacket (where the plug is) and made a cap to match those threads with a .063" hole in the top for the water to squirt up from. the threads are a very oddball size: .575" X 40 TPI. The plug is totally flooded and the head button's temperature is regulated very well. I made several of the threaded caps with different sized holes in the top so I could play around temperature control. It worked great on the MAC45 last year so I've done it to the MAC21, but have not had a chance to try it out.

Al_Waters

When the first MAC engines come out they had a silver water jackets. These heads where unique in that they protected the head bolt screws from corrosion because water was not able to get to the head bolts(the way it was machined)The draw back to this was that it had a little water passage and in some boats they would get hot. The obvious solution to the problem was to machine the area that protected the screw threads thus allowing more water. This is the mod that I believe that your are talking about. The newer generation of motors come with blue water jackets and they machine work is already done to allow more cooling.

Preston_Hall

Those six holes I was referring to were actually water outlets around the plug. The water enters the water jacket then goes through the holes in the head button. After it leaves the water jacket, it goes past the plug on its way to the little hole in the top of the threaded cap.

Club Day 14 April (by Merv)

Once again we were greeted with brilliant weather, flat water and hardly a breath of wind. We had 10 members with boats rearing to start the new season of Hi-Points racing and 3 or 4 members without boats helping out with the BBQ and other chores that makes a successful Club Day Regatta. It is very much appreciated when members turn up to offer their services even if they don’t have a boat running as we are always looking for pit-persons and people to organise the BBQ etc.

The first race up was the Class I Sprints, 5 heats of 5 laps with 6 boats entered and Brett driving Ballistics took overall honours in this. Adrian drove a much-improved Lamborghini and showed us that he will be a real threat this year now that he has controlled the boat from take off and it turns very nicely now. Tony was trying out his new OS 81 powered cat and once he has the bugs sorted out, this boat will be a real flier. Skulduggery, driven by Malcolm was up there amongst the thick of it and took away a couple of 2nd places. Peter, once he got Obsession going,showed us how fast a little 45 can be, taken a win in heat 5. Jason had countless problems with over heating with Coca Cola but rumour goes that he will be going down to Class II when he gets his 46 VXM shortly (Watch out Pete)

Class II Sprints was next with 3 x 5 lappers planned with Petermoving Obsession down to his proper class, romping away from Steve’s Model Shop (Glen) and Ally (Bruce). Two heats were run before Ally succumbed to radio problems from a previous flip and it was decided to move on to the next class. Wayne has re-powered his Class II Deep Vee and said he will be ready next month and Bruce may have his new boat there also. Good to see this class starting to take shape.

Class III never got into the water with Malcolm being the only one to enter, but next month we could be expecting 3 maybe 4 turn up. This Class has been split from Class II andis for 3.5’s and under. Class II is now only for 7.5’s and Class I is for .61’s and up (Petrol/Nitro) You can opt to run up a class as well as your own class but the points stay in the class they were awarded for.

Sport 45 Hydros also did not have any entered but this may change next club day as it was passed at the AGM that tunnels and cats (7.5cc) may also compete in this Class.

Next was the 1/8th Scale Hydros with 4 boats entered for racing and the conditions were ideal for racing and they put on a crowd-pleasing display of racing.

There were 5 heats of 5 laps and Glen (Mr Perfect) driving York took honours by finishing all his heats. Merv has finally got Miss Budweiser sorted out and is starting to show some real pace now. Ultra Bold & Dash driven by Terrystillhas somesteering problems, but once they are sorted out could be a hard one to beat in the future. Malcolm has Miller High Life really screaming now and must be getting close to 100kph down the straights. (It has previously registered 94kph on the GPS in less ideal conditions) Unfortunately on testing the day before, one of Malcolm’s fuel tanks touched the tuned pipe and burnt a hole in it, so he had to be a little bit conservative on the power to last the distance. Sounds like we could have another 1 or 2 boats turning up at our next Club Day. (Llumar, Squire Shop)….exciting!!!

The last race of the day was the Class I, ½ hr Endurance (with one compulsory pit stop). This was a nail bitter with the lead changing hands several times and coming down to the finish with two boats on the same number of laps. Lamborghini taking the honours this time from Skulduggery.

 

This was an excellent day of entertaining racing and was enjoyed by everyone. Thanks to those who helped in setting-up, BBQ, pitting, cleaning-up etc. No one really showed up as an individual D.O.T.D except those who hit the buoys (10 hits in total) (Editor’s note: and I wasn’t even there!)

Dick of the Day

No DOTD reported to me…..

Minutes AGM 5 April 2002

Manukau Model Power Boat Club

Meeting opened 7.25 pm

Apologies:         Adrian Milanesi

Present:            Glen Sayers, Merv Sowden, Malcolm Miller, Ralph McCleery, Graham Doggett,
Mrs Burns and Bruce Burns, Wayne Lester, Jason Lester, Brent Harrison, Tony Belle,
Terry Wilson, Chris Breen

Minutes read from last meeting. Matters arising : nil

Financial report:

Copy of accounts kept for last year and last three years presented with express purpose of pointing out difficulty arising over the 2001 financial year regarding people paying subs without giving a written application regarding who they are. In consequence Glen will purchase a receipt book and issue receipts for all moneys received. All money paid out in the past and in the future is done through the chequebook so every outgoing payment can be accounted for.

Due to Mrs. Burns membership of the Manurewa Cosmopolitan club the Manukau Model Power Boat Club apparently has access to the Cosmopolitan club rooms as and when needed. As a thank you to Mrs. Burns She has been issued a free boat club membership in appreciation.

Presidents report – here it is =>

Comments from Merv as liaison officer with the council.

Ponds won’t be drained for a while. The negotiations regarding the drivers stand are moving along slowly. Permission has been given to repair the launching area on our side of the pond.

Club elections.

Club president.                         Jason Lester                 (n Chris Breen, s.Terry Wilson) passed.

Secretary Treasurer                    Glen Sayers                  (n Jason Lester, s Wayne Lester) passed.

Club Captain                              Merv Sowden.                (n Jason Lester, s Wayne Lester) passed.]

Council coordinator                    Merv Sowden                 (n Malcolm Miller, s Jason Lester) passed.

Publicity.                                   Merv Sowden.                (n Merv Sowden, s Merv Sowden) passed.

Bulletin                                                 Chris Breen                   (n Merv Sowden, s Jason Lester) passed. Special mention was made at this point commending Chris on an excellent production over the last year regarding the bulletin. A monthly production enjoyed by all members.

Setting of club fees.

Some discussion was held regarding the altering of club fees but is was decided to retain the current fees of Adults $30, family $45 and junior (under 16) $15.

Class racing.

Boats will be run in the following class categories in the future. 3.5, 7.5 and 60à These being class 3, 2 and 1 respectively. (Jason and Malcolm) passed. Discussion was held regarding the amount of waiting for water time some club members experience when they don’t have a boat of a given specific class.

It was discussed and pointed out that the requirement for a pitman has drastically reduced the amount of carnage on the water.

Sea Fair Competition.

Due to a lack of out of town participation at Seafair, it was felt that the club would prefer not to be involved in holding another Seafair day. It was generally felt that the amount of work involved did not warrant the result and that a normal club competition day resulted in more boats on the water and a higher excitement level. It was felt that it would be better to issue invites to out of town clubs to visit on race days as they are based on organized races and are full-on competition days in themselves.

Quad series.

Auckland hasn’t as yet been approached regarding involvement in the quad series. This was a surprise to members as past quad series have been a great deal of fun.

Club Web Site.

Thanks to Glen Sayers for the passed web site which is now off line. Thanks to Chris Breen for the new club site which is up to date and very well presented.

Course set up.

Thanks to Malcolm for not only looking after both trailers but for being responsible for taking them down to the pond in two trips per day. Thanks also to Adriana and the others who turn up regularly and help with setting up the pond early.

Thanks also to Mrs. Burns for both her donations and the help she has given the club in recent times. With regards to this there will be a Rum-Run competition held in the future with a bottle of the aforementioned fluid as a prize donated by Mrs. Burns. Entry will be $5. Following this it is pleasantly surprising the number of people willingly paying the $5 fine for hitting a buoy. This is helping greatly with recovering the not insubstantial costs of producing and replacing the buoys.

A discussion was held regarding the fining of people who hit a dead boat. While it was felt this is a serious issue the matter is sensitive and the meeting resolved fines will not be imposed.

Club BBQ.

Mrs Burns will organize this in the future. Another reason to thank Mrs. Burns for her on going support of the club.

Honorary club member.

It was proposed by Wayne Lester that Glen Sayers be made an honorary member due to services rendered several years ago when the club was struggling. Work was done by Glen regarding the club bulletin, club website, running some club days, organizing the dingy and acting as club secretary and treasurer. Passed.

Malcolm Miller, due to efforts regarding the storing and delivering of the trailers will be exempt club fees.

The club outboard is currently at Wayne Lester’s awaiting repairs.

Meeting closed

Notes from NZMPBA Nationals

The NZ Nationals were held in Hamilton over Easter in quite rough conditions. Congratulations to Terry Wilson in taking 3rd in the NZ Champs C Scale with Ultra Bold & Dash.

CLUB CHAMPS 2002

Results

1/8th Scale

 

1st         Miller High Life   38pts

2nd        York                             37pts

3rd         Ultra Bold and Dash       10pts

3rd         Miss Budweiser10pts

 

Class II Sprints

 

1st         Obsession                     30pts

2nd        Ally                               26pts

3rd         DeWalt             09pts

 

Class I Sprints

 

1st         Blue Dealer                   37pts

2nd        Coca Cola                     31pts

3rd         Splash Zone                  27pts

3rd         Skulduggery                  27pts

5th         Ballistics                       19pts

6th         Lamborghini                   10pts

 

Class II 10-minute enduro

 

1st         Ally                               12 laps

2nd        DeWalt             08 laps

 

Class I 10-minute enduro

 

1st         Ballistics                       65 laps

2nd        Coca Cola                     50 laps

2nd        Splash Zone                  50 laps

4th         Lamborghini                   23 laps

5th         Skulduggery                  ½ lap

Club Points Standings (2001/2002)

These are final points for 2001 year. After Club Champs we start anew

Sprint & Enduro Racing

Driver

Boat

Total Enduro Points

Total Sprint Points

 Sprint

Class I Off-Shore

   

Chris Breen

Lemon & Paeroa

112

75

Malcolm Miller

Skulduggery

326

72

Phil Leach

 

80

70

Tony Belle

Splash Zone

213

70

Adrian Milanesi

Lamborghini

158

48

Adrian Milanesi

Orange &white thingi

136

 

Jeremy & Brett) Harrison

 

50

43

Graham Doggett

Ohio Steel

226

42

Wayne Lester

Bud Dry

68

34

Glen Sayers

Blue Dealer

47

30

Jason Lester

Coca Cola

102

27

Tony Webster

Martini Racing

 

17

Brian Nesbitt

Pussycat

205

17

Tony Kockott

Tornado

18

8

Adrienne Kockott

Evoluzione

18

 

Russell Day

 

58

 
       

 Sprint

Class II Off-Shore

   

Peter Wright

Obsession

129

47

Jason Lester

DeWalt

46

36

Warrick Kockott

Coke

 

10

Graham Doggett

   

8

Malcolm Miller

Red Boat

49

 0

Glen Sayers

Steves Model shop

26

 0

1/8th Scale

Hydros

   

Chris Breen

Llumar

 

47

Jason Lester

DeWalt

 

28

Merv Sowden

Miss Bud

 

10

Glen Sayers

York

 

10

       

Scale 45

Hydros

   

Jason Lester

Poisidon

 

63

Chris Breen

Black Fire

 

59

Merv Sowden

Radical Rat

 

57

Best Presented Boat

Name

   

Total for the day

 

Adrian

Lamborghini

1st

20

 

Graham

Ohio Steel

2nd

18

 

Merv

Radical Rat II

3rd

16

 

Club Quad Handicap Series

1st         Malcolm Miller               4227.40 pts

2nd        Chris Breen                   3600.61 pts

3rd         Tony Belle                     3425.23 pts

4th         Jason Lester                  2477.92 pts

5th         Wayne Lester                2398.29 pts

6th         Peter Wright                  2124.77 pts

7th         Adrian Milanessi            1480.50 pts

8th         Graham Doggett            1353.00 pts

9th         Brian Nesbitt                 348.00 pts

Club Points Standings (2002/2003 year)

Driver

Boat

Total Enduro Points)

Total Sprint Points

 

Class I Off-Shore

   

Graham Doggett

Ohio Steel

   

Peter Wright

Obsession

 

25

Adrian Milanesi

Orange &white thingi

   

Adrian Milanesi

Lamborghini

10

38

Glen Sayers

Blue thingi

   

Wayne Lester

Bud Dry

   

Jason Lester

Coca Cola

 

14

Tony Webster

Martini Racing

   

Tony Belle

Splash Zone II

7

13

Malcolm Miller

Skulduggery

9

32

Adrienne Kockott

Evoluzione

   

Tony Kockott

Tornado

   

Brian Nesbitt

Pussycat

   

Phil Leach

 

   

Russell Day

 

   

Jeremy & Brett) Harrison

Ballistics

8

45

Chris Breen

Lemon & Paeroa

   
 

Class II Off-Shore

   

Peter Wright

Obsession

 

20

Glen Sayers

Steves Model shop

 

18

Bruce Burns

Ally

 

8

Jason Lester

DeWalt

   

Malcolm Miller

Red Boat

   

Graham Doggett

     

Warrick Kockott

Coke

   
 

Hydros

   

Glen Sayers

York

 

45

Chris Breen

Black Fire

   

Chris Breen

Llumar

   

Malcolm Miller

Miller High life

 

19

Terry Wison

Ultra Bold & Dash

 

27

Jason Lester

Poisidon

   

Jason Lester

DeWalt

   

Merv Sowden

Radical Rat

   

Merv Sowden

Miss Bud

 

28

Well that is all for this newsletter people – Next Club Day is April 28th.

C Breen – Editor

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